I just got back from a week long vacation with my family in which we carved and lit over 200 pumpkins for Halloween. It was a blast and it was sooooo nice to go home. Now I am getting back and sorting through things and going back once again to all those things which life consists of. At some point I will try to post pictures here. However there are a lot of pictures and right now I am not going to bother.
However I did want to post about the stake conference that I attended. We only went to the Sunday session since Saturday was Halloween and we had a previous engagement. Cecil O. Samuelson was the seventy that spoke. I found it funny that even though he was the President of BYU while I was there I had to go to my (old) home ward to hear him speak.
An earlier speaker had mentioned a little child (I believe a fairly close relative) that had been at school and accused of not being a Christian when the other kids found out he/she was a mormon. When asked what constituted a Christian the other kids said a person who believes in Christ at which point after a thought the kid said, "well, then I guess that makes the devil a Christian too".
This clever story reminded Elder Samuelson of an event at which he was invited to speak about the mormons and have a question and answer session with other clergymen. After a discussion of the restoration, the early church in England (for that is where this took place), and the modern church he participated in a long question and answer session. As time was running out a rather petulant man asked how mormons could consider themselves Christians. While Elder S. had thought this questions had been answered he asked for the mans bible and if it would be acceptable to answer the questions by asking a few of his own first. They were all Clergy and there belief in the Bible had been established so he asked them 1) if they believed Christ to be the literal son of God and Mary and thus dual natured both eternal and mortal. Some bickering about details ensued but he testified he believed it as taught in their Bible. 2) He asked if they believed in the ministy of Christ and the miracles he performed. Again their was some discussion of allegorys and such and he cut them short for times sake and again testified that the Mormons beleive in the miracles and ministry as documented. 3) and most importantly in his mind he asked if they believed in the "passion" of Christ and his resurrection (evidently atonement is only used once and passion is how virtually all other Christians refer to Christ's sacrifice. Yet again people voiced their interpretations and discussed naunces going into flowers in the spring and so forth and yet again he cut them off in the interest of time to bear his testimony and state that mormons believed the account as written in their Bibles. At which point he posed his final question which was, Given all the answers to those 3 questions who did they think should be classified as true Cristians. At which point he said a little old lady elbowed the petulant man in the side and said, "I think he's got you". I liked the story and thought it would be good to share and remember.
Anyway, later I will have to record all the other bits of this last weekend.
However I did want to post about the stake conference that I attended. We only went to the Sunday session since Saturday was Halloween and we had a previous engagement. Cecil O. Samuelson was the seventy that spoke. I found it funny that even though he was the President of BYU while I was there I had to go to my (old) home ward to hear him speak.
An earlier speaker had mentioned a little child (I believe a fairly close relative) that had been at school and accused of not being a Christian when the other kids found out he/she was a mormon. When asked what constituted a Christian the other kids said a person who believes in Christ at which point after a thought the kid said, "well, then I guess that makes the devil a Christian too".
This clever story reminded Elder Samuelson of an event at which he was invited to speak about the mormons and have a question and answer session with other clergymen. After a discussion of the restoration, the early church in England (for that is where this took place), and the modern church he participated in a long question and answer session. As time was running out a rather petulant man asked how mormons could consider themselves Christians. While Elder S. had thought this questions had been answered he asked for the mans bible and if it would be acceptable to answer the questions by asking a few of his own first. They were all Clergy and there belief in the Bible had been established so he asked them 1) if they believed Christ to be the literal son of God and Mary and thus dual natured both eternal and mortal. Some bickering about details ensued but he testified he believed it as taught in their Bible. 2) He asked if they believed in the ministy of Christ and the miracles he performed. Again their was some discussion of allegorys and such and he cut them short for times sake and again testified that the Mormons beleive in the miracles and ministry as documented. 3) and most importantly in his mind he asked if they believed in the "passion" of Christ and his resurrection (evidently atonement is only used once and passion is how virtually all other Christians refer to Christ's sacrifice. Yet again people voiced their interpretations and discussed naunces going into flowers in the spring and so forth and yet again he cut them off in the interest of time to bear his testimony and state that mormons believed the account as written in their Bibles. At which point he posed his final question which was, Given all the answers to those 3 questions who did they think should be classified as true Cristians. At which point he said a little old lady elbowed the petulant man in the side and said, "I think he's got you". I liked the story and thought it would be good to share and remember.
Anyway, later I will have to record all the other bits of this last weekend.
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